Category: Healthy Debate (Page 2 of 2)

Here we go AGAIN. Expecting much more of this in the coming months was one of many reasons for starting this forum.

And now we have Meta (parent company of Facebook, Instagram etc.), once again reestablishing themselves on their throne to guard against MISinformation. This would be a good time to review their past history, as well as where/how they generate revenue. utilizing and mainstreaming blatant fraudulent scams.

https://www.wired.com/story/meta-disinformation-elections/

Watching her latest press conference, I was taken aback by her continual use of being “very, very CLEAR and transparent” about everything so I got to work creating my very very first MEME.

Now using this space to store other pertinent memes.

I am often confronted by those unwilling to acknowledge the video we weren’t supposed to see regarding the “INSURRECTION‘ on 1/6. They are usually the ones still claiming that 4 police officers were killed that day and all the unarmed folks taking selfies inside were trying to overthrow the government.

Being tired of those who cannot allow themselves to seek out any truth that may contradict what they were told to be the truth, the exchange below was an attempt to set the record straight FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. You can agree or not, but I pity you if you digest this and STILL remain so misled.

The accusation that started this by putting words in my mouth that I did NOT say:

What proof of disinformation are you referring to? The J6 Committee? More on that below. Also, what sources would those be? I never referenced any sources. I figured out in a few days (by watching all media) what the J6 Committee needed 18 months of investigation, 7 months of litigation, 1,000 witnesses and subpoenas of 100 individuals to get WRONG at a cost to the taxpayers of upwards of forty million dollars.

Let me check my receipt drawer:

From 1/10/2021 at 12:29pm, I replied to you:
“It’s not really hard to see how this played out – despite how the media, Tech and their ignorant sheep wail about insurrection. With thousands of peaceful protesters demonstrating around the capitol, it only required a few like-minded agitators to escalate the situation.

As Sullivan himself stated:
“Protesters weren’t really, like, trying to burn anything down, they weren’t really trying to break anything, their main motive was to make it into the chambers,” Sullivan told KUTV.

All they had to do was break a few windows and encourage others to follow. I am sure (out of that many protesters), some wanted simply to be heard so they followed. Many have reported they were trying to STOP the damage and destruction going on inside. Unlike the violence condoned and excused by the left over the past several months, there were no fires, no looting and little damage other than a few windows.

It’s no coincidence that INSTEAD of hearing the testimony of the many objectors inside the joint session of congress, the story became “an insurrection” and that expected testimony was forever silenced. Bravo! Job well done. Now, they immediately leverage the situation to maximize their control”.

These were my thoughts 4 days after the event! As I deduced back then, thousands of Trump backers played right into their hands and was a colossal mistake we all pay for, as the nation crumbles. It was all just TOO SCRIPTED.

Did you look up John Earl Sullivan yet? It’s been 3 years now and you seem to still be unaware of him. He actually filmed himself doing exactly that (agitating). The other most notable name was Ray Epps. He was captured in several videos yelling for everyone to “go inside, we have to go inside” and was also found to be at many of the points where barriers were broken. I am sure all of those previous misinformation factories you rely on (Politifact? Really?) still deny he did anything but multiple sources now confirm it. For all that documented activity, what did he get? 6 months? While grandmas gets 10 years in prison if they were lucky enough to even go to trial, as many haven’t, in clear violation of the 6th amendment.

Then, we hear that the FBI was likely involved. Estimates range from 100-400 were undercover. The pipe bombs mysteriously appearing in the most surveilled place on earth? Also, now being suspected as being placed by the FBI.

Yes. They literally used a bright metallic pipe with an affixed timer so there would be no confusion. We’ll see where that goes but you have to wonder how they managed to find and jail so many who never even went inside (or walked through open doors held open by the police) but can’t find that suspect after 3 years.

The J6 Committee tried their best to pick and choose the slices of video that amplified their narrative and hid everything that didn’t. They might have succeeded if left at that. However, then the videos we weren’t supposed to see were released that blew it all wide open and pretty much confirms everything I said 3 years ago. TOO SCRIPTED.

The most damning (to me) was the Capitol police on the balcony firing chemicals, rubber bullets and paint balls into the (at that time) peaceful crowd below with one of them remarking that the folks down below are getting enraged and a few more shots will likely get them to charge. Another officer remarked on body cam footage that they were set up (to fail) by those in charge as the usual methods and protocols they use for crowd control were mysteriously not used that day. As I said 3 years ago. TOO SCRIPTED.

This is probably the best video summary of ALL of the events of that day.
https://open.ink/collections/j6

It seems like you haven’t seen any of it so I’d suggest you go through it. I’ve seen many of the videos we weren’t supposed to see but this one lays it out in a chronological timeline of ALL the video taken that day including police bodycam footage and from cell phones in the crowd. Of course, you’ll dismiss it entirely simply because one of the J6 protesters initiated it. Just a deep fake, right?

It clearly shows that JUST when congress was about to address arguments against certification (just like Hillary orchestrated in 2017 before the Russian Collusion hoax surfaced), the doors were suddenly flung open and the “insurrectionists” were escorted into the building by the police so the proceedings could be halted for maximum effect. TOO SCRIPTED.

We even get a video of Pelosi doing a “retake” of her reaction to it when her daughters film crew (mysteriously there filming the events of the day) decided that the 1st take wasn’t dramatic enough. TOO SCRIPTED.

But this is where you’ll accuse me of going off the deep end, put your fingers in your ears and chant “nah-nah-nah-nah” by refusing to see what everyone else has seen. I guess that is all deep fake stuff in your world.

Frankly, it doesn’t matter. Even if you refuse to even try to find the truth, thankfully most everyone else has woken up. So, every statement, every policy, every action this administration tries now only alienates them more from the people they demand to control, AND strengthens the opposition as a result.

Please keep it up. This nation depends on it.

I remember being derided as “gone off the deep end” when this story first broke.

• First, it was debunked as Russian misinformation, backed by 51 intelligence officials, who knowingly signed their names to a blatant lie.
• Then, when some of it was confirmed, it morphed into Mumbles McGoo wasn’t aware at any point (THAT’s believable anyway).
• Then, it evolved into M&M was aware but was never involved and never met with any of Hunters clients.
• Then it was, OK, he might have talked on the phone with some but never met with any of the clients.
• Soon after that was shredded, he met with some of the clients but they never discussed business.
• Then, M&M may have discussed business but he never received any payments from that business.
• Then, when the payments were confirmed, we were told they were loan repayments, yet never presented any documentation on those loans.
• Finally, we are circling back to Russian disinformation
• and if that doesn’t work, it’s decided it was just NO BIG DEAL.

Now, weigh ALL THAT against the video below.

Just THINK of the ramifications of that single, solitary story – all covered up, censored and kept from the public immediately before a presidential election.

“Knowing that the laptop’s contents were legitimate, the FBI went to the Aspen Institute in June 2020 to trigger an information operation against the American people using legacy and social media members to convince people before an election that the laptop story was Russian disinformation. This is called a pre-bunk to propagandize the media and public that the Biden laptop was a Russian “hack-and-dump” operation”.

“The FBI convinced social media to censor the laptop story before the 2020 election. After Donald Trump’s loss, approximately 17% of Americans said they would have changed their vote had they known the laptop was real…”.  

I have ZERO respect for those 17% who have been lied to repeatedly the past several years, yet they swallow each and every story that comes out.

Remember this? (from the 2020 presidential debate). Of course you don’t if you are one of those who wake up to a new history every single day.

Yeah. And I’m the one who is crazy.