Category: Healthy Debate (Page 5 of 8)

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Bidenomics IS working?

This was a wise ad investment.

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It’s amazing how she can make these claims, touting the successes of Bidenomics, while at the same time blame all of the negatives on Trump – while also at the same time, refusing to disclose how she plans to fix any of it.

In the Crosshairs

You could see this coming a mile away. It was their only remaining option. Not to mention after repeatedly disparaging more than half the country and wailing about the impending threat to democracy, it’s no wonder we ended up here.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-rally-incident/card/one-trump-rally-attendee-killed-2QnYzzZt3im9NEsshRLO

Of course, the MSM initially reported that “loud noises were heard” and “Trump fell” at the rally.

https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1812279222418755713

Just about what you would expect from those that have been gaslighting everyone for years. Who still believes what they spew out?

Now, we await the identity of the (now) dead shooter, as well as their affiliations. For those dependent on the MSM, if it is negative, you will NOT hear anything more. If it is positive, they will amplify it to no end. Just another day in the life.


In the hours since, we learn that NOW we need to tamp down talk of retaliatory violence. But up to now, that’s been fair game with Mumbles declaring the need to “put Trump in the crosshairs”.

These people disgust me.

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But for months, we’ve been told half that the country are MAGA terrorists, and that Trump is a psychopath worse than Hitler, who must be stopped at all costs to save our democracy – while his supporters are imprisoned at every opportunity.

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Those accusations are never explained. They are just piled on and repeated over and over until you get reactions like this.

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The fact that that this young woman would get on a public platform and say what she said proves that point. The Left has done a good job in demonizing President Trump and his supporters and now we clearly see the results.

They called him an illegitimate president.
They said he was a threat to democracy and had to be stopped.
They unleashed a legion of agents to investigate him, searched his home and broke historic barriers by indicting him.
Then they rigged a trial in a bid to put him in prison.
They called him un-American and worse. Their lawyers and activists fought to keep him off the fall ballots in a dozen blue states as a way — get this — to defend democracy.
They are still trying to bankrupt him and confiscate his businesses.
And now they have shot him.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/opinion/trump-just-proved-that-hes-a-pure-warrior-after-his-heinous-assassination-attempt

One positive for the left is that this takes the heat off Mumbles in the news cycle.

Cognitive Test? But why?

This is so typical of the gaslighting that has been painfully obvious to many the past several years. But are automatically labelled as MAGA-Extremists if they dare to bring it up.

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Instead, we are schooled that Mumbles McGoo is a sharp and focused dynamo behind the scenes working late into the evening solving the world’s problems. They just seem incapable of demonstrating that vigor in any public appearance. As each public event approaches, we hear it is a make or break opportunity and just need to watch him astound us all. Then, he reliably falls on his face and we learn it was a cold, his schedule, jet lag, the sun was in his eyes, the dog ate his homework, wasn’t his fault, Trump did it or whatever other feeble excuse appears in his fogged brain.

In the most recent ABC interview, he was asked if he’s had a full neurological exam since the debate, Biden retorted, “I get a full neurological test every day with me.” It was clearly a scripted line and he repeated it twice more in the interview. 

“Have you had the specific cognitive tests?” 
“No. No one said I had to,” Biden said.

Well, his mental health has been in question since before the 2020 contest and now EVERYONE is calling for such a test. To any sane person, that would be a trigger to complete such a test to alleviate those concerns. But not to this self-absorbed mental titan living in his own dream world though. We are all expected to shut up and go along with it or we are threats to democracy.

As to Dr. Jackson’s original post above, the “apology would be nice” line stands out. How many have heard any such admission or realization that they’ve been constantly fed a line of BS, and those contradicting that BS have been right all along. Now, it has all blown up in their faces.

The Hypocrisy is Mind-blowing!!!

How can even 30% still be for this?

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When they trashed Trump while in office, they are “saving Democracy”. When they trash Biden, they are a “threat to democracy.

And then, they will effortlessly slide into denying the election and interfering in the transfer of power. You know, the thing Trump was accused of and all of those J6 protestors were imprisoned for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/02/justice-dept-trump-prosecute-after-election

Post Debate Meltdown

Watching this unfold is rather fascinating, while also being truly tragic.

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My favorite in these marching orders: “Trump said that the pro-Trump Nazi march in Charlottesville was made up”. Did he? I seem to remember he said the QUOTE of him saying the Nazi’s were fine people was made up (or, selectively edited removing the context where he specifically condemned those idiots) and that fine people comment was meant for those opposing removing of statues from our storied past. In that line of thinking, do we progress to tearing down the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington monument?

Uh huh.

I’ve said it all so many times before, I’ll let her sum it up for you.

Anyone who committed the sin of using their own eyes on the 46th president was accused, variously, of being Trumpers; MAGA cult members who don’t want American democracy to survive; ageists; or just dummies easily duped by “disinformation,” “misinformation,” “fake news,” and, most recently, “cheapfakes.”

https://www.thefp.com/p/bari-weiss-president-biden-debate-june-27


My favorite saying used to be:

“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove any doubt”.

That’s been replaced with (paraphrasing):

“All it takes for evil to take root in this world, is for the good man to stand by and remain silent”.

Since it is calling me out by name, it strikes a chord but also explains how we got here. Way too many have been sitting on the sidelines, not wishing to make any waves to keep the peace and accepting the constant gaslighting that’s been happening nonstop for 8 years now. Well, how has that worked out for you?


You’ll keep hearing from those that refuse to face reality that Trump is only in it to serve his interests. Well, I’ll let this meme speak to that thought.

Democracy for which it stands…

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Not much more needs to be said. They will continue to wail about their perceived “threat to democracy” – just like they did in 2016, without any factual basis or proof and their lapdogs (learning nothing) will obediently eat it up again.

For those still confused, Mr. Lee’s reply below sums it up well.


I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands
one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


I intentionally omitted the “under God” (added in 1954), simply to avoid triggering the godless who have dragged us all to this present bottom of the drain existence.

Defend Democracy?

The question is who will protect your Constitutional freedoms. Anyone who’s head isn’t in the sand of up his backside knows the answer.

1st Amendment. Who forcibly shut down churches? Who wants to prosecute people for so called hate speech? Who actually bullied the press with government power and spied on reporters?
2nd Amendment. Who want to disarm the public?
4th Amendment. Whose DOJ sends FBI agents armed to the hilt to arrest political dissenters?
5th Amendment. Who are the judges making arbitrary decisions against their political opponents and denying fair trials?
6th Amendment. Who stacked a jury against its political opponent to convict on an un-named crime?
7th Amendment. Even though it pertains to Federal courts, what State judge has entered ridiculous judgements against Trump? If you don’t think they’d do this on a Federal level, think again.
8th Amendment. Cruel and unusual punishment. How many people caught up in J 6th have under gone that?
9th Amendment. Which party wants to restrict our God given rights?
10th Amendment. Which party wants to restrict States Rights.

As far as the 3rd Amendment goes no soldiers have been quartered in our homes, yet? I’d say throwing Veterans out to house illegals comes pretty close.


Not All Trump Supporters…

After several rounds of fruitless “discussion”, there is one recurring topic that needs clarification.

In most conversations about Trump, I have described him as an “arrogant blowhard who doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut – and won’t be invited over to the farm anytime soon”. However, I recognize that his policies while in office were vastly better and had this country in a much better place and standing on the world stage. Especially now, with his opponent incoherently wandering around in his chemically induced haze embarrassing us on a daily basis, while HIS policies have us involved in multiple wars, swamped in massive debt, energy dependent with depleted reserves (to buy votes), a wide open border and out of control crime.

However, it doesn’t matter. ANY affirmation of Trump policy or questioning of a Biden action results in the “Ultra-MAGA Extremist” label, complete with assumptions that we only get our info from Fox News, spend all day seeking every word/speech/statement he utters, while we are slamming our coal fired 4x4s through protected wetlands on our way to militia training to learn guerilla tactics on how to bring down an F15 with our fully automatic scary black rifles w/100 round magazines. After training, we return to our bunkers where we declare our devotions to him beneath our Trump poster hanging over beds.

The truth? We have no Trump bumper stickers. We have no Trump signs displayed anywhere. We don’t listen to any of his speeches or statements. We have never attended his rallies and have no intention of doing so.

We don’t watch Fox News but I do enjoy Gutfield or The Five clips on YouTube occasionally. This is especially relevant now that they are claiming everything you see with your own eyes is a deep fake manipulation.

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There is no propaganda machine leading us astray, echoing his insecurities as we blindly fall for his “Gospel of Fear“. Many of us have simply been

PAYING ATTENTION

to the events of the past several years, we remember what was said and reported then, and we gauge that against what is being reported now.

The only time I even pay attention to anything he says is when he is misquoted (like the “bloodbath” comment that was widely circulated but instantly debunked). In those cases, I seek proper context to learn the truth but in actuality, he is as hard to listen to as Kennedy. At least Kennedy can blame his irritating (Katherine Hepburn) voice on past throat issues whereas Trump is just generally irritating.

Like I said, none of that matters if you refuse to swallow their Kool Aid.

To put into context, I asked this question to a regular detractor (since banned here for refusing to back up any of her claims in violation of the site rules):

So, if anyone who disagrees with you is an Ultra MAGA Extremist, can we then assume that ALL of you support terrorists and are for the extermination of all of the Jews?

Sadly, it’s no surprise she didn’t understand the connection and it flew over her head – like every major story for the past 8 years.

Another Prediction Come True

When they have nothing left to stand on, they roll out the DISinformation angle and start advocating with Big Tech and the media for censorship (remember how THAT played out?).

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When they realize no one is buying that, as the full context of his disastrous G7 appearances are widely shared by the world press with quoted remarks by the other world leaders alarmed at his decline, they’ll progress on to the “Deep Fake” arguments, where everything you think you see is manufactured and you can only trust what they tell you you saw.

The most amazing part of that is how incredibly gullible do you have to be to continue to buy into their BS? But yet, I know some who still faithfully swallow every command and continue to ridicule others who can see right through it.

Meanwhile, they flood the masses with this and the obedient lapdogs eat it up.

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